Tuesday, November 15, 2011

Fire safety cigarettes are poison?

I've been smoking 30 years. I live in Arizona where we just started getting Fire Safety Cigarettes.


For three weeks I was constantly getting ill, and having never heard of fire safe cigs, had no idea why. I immediately noticed my cigs (Marlboro reds) kept going out, not in a few minutes, more like every 30 seconds, Very annoying.


My dad a 50 year smoker called me one day to say his cigarettes, (Marlboro Light 100's), kept going out, and tasted awful. So I e-mailed Phillip Morris asking "What's going on"?. I googled, 'Marlboros keep burning themselves out'. I was appalled at what I saw. Web sites, blogs, and forums abounded with smokers complaining about getting sick from smoking these FSC cigarettes.


I couldn't believe our government would force a product on its citizens that were making smokers across the country sick. Didn't anyone bother too do some research on the health impact of these new 'safer' (not) cigarettes?


I immediately went to my vendor, and after searching there inventory found and bought five cartons of regular not FSC cigarettes, (labeled above the bar code). Within two days of smoking regular Marlboro's my illnesses subsided, and after a week I felt like my old self again.


Now I will have to start buying them online from companies in North Carolina, a state that still offers regular cigarettes that don't make me sick. After that I will buy them from Russia if I have too, or search out a black market, as I'm sure they will be popping up real soon.


Fire prevention agencies claim it will save 700 to 1,000 lives per year. New York Department of State did a study in New York State, a state which has mandated FSC for four years now, and found that deaths did drop from 31 deaths to 22 deaths in 2004.


Harvard School of medicine said that five compounds in the FSC cigarettes had increased in toxicity, but there was no evidence that these increases affect the already toxic nature of cigarette smoke.


OH REALLY, then why am I finding smokers all over the internet complaining they're getting sick? , I know they made me sick.


Those entities that are pushing this garbage on us didn't even have the courtesy to tell us smokers what they were doing.


These 'speed bump rings' that are incorporated into the paper, has increased amounts of a glue produced by DuPont used to adhere carpet, and is very toxic, (Adhesive ethylene vinyl acetate).


First our government unjustly targets smokers with a huge tax burden of 500% the past ten to fifteen years, now there going to poison us.


Did I mention the taste? These RSC taste terrible, another factor I鈥檓 reading from smokers across the country online. The amber or (cherry) at the end of the cigarette doesn't burn the same and allows too much air to mix with the smoke, and you can't get enough taste. So you end up drawing on them repeatedly trying to get a good full drag. You end up with uneven burning and ambers falling all over the place. Seems to me this is going to cause 'More Fire Hazard'. Also the constant relighting causes the paper to ignite into a real flame, and has even blown up in my face, and I only smoked a few packs of them.


New York States 2004 study claims nine lives were saved. Nation wide that would be 450 lives per year, less than the number of people a 'month' who die from tripping and falling down. But it's okay to make thousands of smokers鈥?nationwide sick. How many smokers a year will die now from the higher toxicity in the paper, only time will tell鈥?


If we allow these non smoking advocates to 'dictate' what we consume, were will it end?


There's still as many non smokers dying each year of lung cancer and heart disease as smokers, considering the high levels of pollution in our cities nationwide. Maybe next they'll blame smokers for that too.


James Whitehorne Phoenix Az. May 29, 2009


jmjmyj7@hotmail.com|||I'm sorry, but I ill have to agree with Harvard that there is no proven effect that it's more harmful than the other chemicals in it. Yes it may make it taste different, but that is just one of the side effects of it.





As to why there are hundereds of sick smokers complaining online, it is well proven medical fact, as well as both common knowledge and common sense, that smoking is bad for you. It can cause so many conditions I couldn't list them all here.





However, unless we have more information about what you mean by being "ill" I'm afraid we can't really give a proper diagnosis.|||In other words...So what the gov is adding more toxic chemicals to your cigarettes...it's what you deserve for being stupid enough to smoke the already existing chemicals....you aren't getting sick from the added glue

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|||How idiotic have we become that we need something we light on fire, to go out by itself? This was a terrible decision, which I have decided is good enough reason to throw crates of FSC cigarettes into a certain harbor in Massachusetts.

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|||Ok med student, I am not the original poster however; I can describe how I have been feeling due to these "lazy man's cigarettes". Headaches nasea and sleeplessness. Any advice, other than the obvious, would be helpful.

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|||Since I have been receiving the Fire Safety Cigarettes from stores I have also been sick. It started a few days after I had started getting the FSC's only. It started with chest congestion, runny nose, then today just feeling like I'm going to puke and headache. Maybe this is what I need to quit.

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|||EVERYONE i have spoken with about the FSC complains of symptoms like bad headaches and up set stomaches they were not felling these things before, so something has to be there for this to be going on.

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|||lxistant isn't going to answer--because his answer was masturbatory. Once he shot his load (i.e., made himself feel better by talking down to someone) he rolled over and went to sleep.

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|||The government forces cigarette manufacturers to pay for anti-smoking advertising. The states then enforce additional chemicals into cigarettes. There is debate on the medical impact of additional chemicals. Some say smokers deserve it. Alcohol is next until the case is made to your specific vice!

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|||Med student:Cigarettes are harmful to health.But this doesn't justify or make right adding chemicals to an already harmful product with no medical studies related to health impacts.It is not prudent to wait until after the fact to diagnose.Studies should already be completed, care takers informed.

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|||The issue isn't if the added chemicals are more harmful than existing chemicals.The issue is that more toxic chemicals are being introduced.The lives saved from fire case doesn't take into account the lives lost as a result of the additional chemicals.No mid/ long term analysis completed (problem).

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|||After smoking two packs of these FSC's over a period of about two days, I developed a sore throat and a dry hacking cough. I also had bad headaches and pretty bad nausea as well as slightly blurred vision. Never had regular cigarettes do that to me...

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|||Stumbled upon this post. Jeckel, I agree with you on the basis they taste different and they make my stomach upset. Camels are no longer seductively smooth and when they keep going out it's annoying. All you non-smokers don't understand.

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|||I guess if we (smokers) were about to jump off a bridge they would think it was helping to go ahead and give us a shove! If I wanted to smoke glue I'D LIGHT UP A TUBE OF LIQUID NAILS, not a cigarette. This is what you get when other people do your thinking for you.

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|||umm yea wellwoodgirl if you dont even smoke than why are you n here even leaving comments trashin people you dont even know when you dont even smoke

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|||since these came out i have had heartburn everyday,have had decrease in appetite as they make me nauseas,i have lost over 35 pounds from this illness.as for the taste the taste is very noticable and aweful i have reduced my habit from a pack a day to about 6 a day and have notice decrease in symptom

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|||med student: not all cigarettes have toxic chemicals in them. i smoke american spirits, and they are 100% additive free. just tobacco. so why don't you do some research before you spout off and lecture people you don't even know? smoking is a decision that we, as adults, make. so get off your high

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|||horse and shut the **** up.





ps--unfortuntately, american spirits are also covered in this dangerous paper. i, too, have noticed the heartburn and bad taste. it just sucks!

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|||These cigarettes are poison. Unsympathetic nonsmokers like this idiot med student need to realize that the second-hand smoke THEY breathe just got more toxic too instead of blowing-off people's politically-incorrect concerns and delivering the company-line about how smoking is bad for us anyway.

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|||Vote thumbs down on this clone med student's useless non-answer.

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|||I have smoked for 15 yrs and have never had a cough. Since the change I have had a chronic cough, sinus infection, and heartburn, but the real alarming thing was when I went to the hospital with what I thought was a heart attack turned out to be pleurisy. I am 33 years old and should not have this

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|||Obviously if the government says add more chemicals and it affect the smoker negatively then it will be blamed on smoking such as the most popular answer to this question has done. I smoke maybe a oack or 2 a week and I dont care for the fire safety crap either.

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|||I bet if we started adding carpet glue to those immature little ****'s like lxistant's and the wanna be med student's beer,whiskey and wine, it would be a whole different ******* story...why ,cause it would be making them sick and make them taste the **** taste.Bet they'd be singing a different toon

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|||The Harvard study was flawed. They tested cigarettes for toxicity that were not fire safe, and there were increases in all nineteen chemical compounds that were tested. Lxistant, you may want to reconsider your career. A fundamental principle of toxicology is that the dose is the poison.

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|||Advocates say New York has had a 35% reduction in deaths since the FSC law. But smoking-related fire deaths have been trending downwards for many years because the smoking rate has been falling. If you factor in the number of smokers, fires have actually increased for smokers since the FSC law.

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|||f this Med Student is willing to smoke Napthalene I will retract this post, but it is a complete misrepresentation of a study.





鈥淭he Harvard School of Health reported that when comparing NY Cigarettes (FSC) versus Regular Cigarettes, the FSC cigarettes produced 13.9% more Naphthalene and 11.4% mo

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|||I reported that terrible answer. Please join me in reporting it. The question is NOT resolved by that terrible answer. You might not have proof based on scientific reports for YEARS that adding RAT POISON to cigarettes specifically "did something". Takes years for studies. STUPID ANSWER.

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|||Ixistant I must say you are a complete idiot with an answer that isn't even an answer but an opinion. For four months I have been breaking out in random slight to sever itching and blotching like a bad allergic reaction. So like anybody in the situation I did everything to find out what it was

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|||including going to the hospital. FOUR months I have been scratching to the point if breaking skin and bleeding. I found out it is the new FSC papers on cigarettes. To say you feel all these sudden reactions and as far as I have heard up to cases of anaphylaxis shock is just side effect to smoking

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|||and not the new FSC papers just shows what a complete tool you are. Putting something into a product people use with side effects like this without ANY type of warning is not just wrong it is criminal. Smoking may be bad but we knew the side effects to it from the start. Adding more without

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|||warning is terrible. I can guarantee such a criminal act is going to end in a multi billion dollar lawsuit that us smokers will all be able to get involved in. Now how smart are you Uncle Sam? Can you imagine the payouts you will have to make to the insanely high number of smokers because of your

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|||idiocy that you do love to prove so often? I look forward to seeing you in court. I have a large collection of pictures of my sever rashing and open wounds from constant scratching. Might have been easier to do this to people in a product they where not already addicted to so they at least

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|||have the option to stop instead of put themselves through the agony because they are drawn to light another despite the constant irritation and self mutilation your FSC papers are causing!

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